Turkey and Dressing

Turkey and Dressing 2013

This is a modified version of the turkey and dressing recipe that Jon got from his Mom, who learned from hers. We buy a fresh (non-frozen), free-range turkey and dry brine it for 2-3 days. In years past, we have also wet-brined it for three days, but this is much messier (though it can save fridge space if you use a cooler). We have recently been doing simple injections to improve the juiciness of the breast meat

Turkey Sizing and Timing

Target temperature: 150°F (See https://blog.thermoworks.com/turkey/turkey-temps/ and https://www.southernliving.com/food/meat/turkey/what-temperature...). The turkey should be held at or above 150 at the lowest point for 10 minutes (or at 155 for 1½ minutes.

If frozen, it will need to thaw, in the refrigerator, for several days. Follow the directions that come with the turkey.

Note from Mom on turkey size: 12 to 15 lbs is a good size. It will feed 8 people and you will have leftovers. If you will be having more folks, I find it is best to buy two (or multiples) of this size. You can cook one the day before and refrigerate it and reheat it while the first one is being eaten.

Ingredients

Dry Brine

  • ¼ cup kosher salt
  • 1.5 Tbsp sugar
  • sage
  • pepper

2-3 days before, clean out and rinse turkey, pat dry.
Rub salt mixture all over, and save some to work in under the skin on the breasts.
Place, uncovered, in a rack on a tray in the top of the fridge and let dry.

Injection

  • 1 cup chicken or turkey broth
  • 4 tablespoons unsalted butter
  • 1 tablespoon lemon juice
  • ½ teaspoon garlic powder
  • ½ teaspoon finely ground black pepper
  • ¼ teaspoon finely ground white pepper
  • ½ teaspoon kosher salt

The day before, prepare and inject the turkey. Warm the broth and spices together, stir in the butter until melted, add salt to taste (recognizing that you need some salt to penetrate the meat, but balance salt usage here with the salt from the dry brine). Let cool until just warm before injecting into the meat.

Turkey

  • 1 turkey, size of your choice, 14-18lbs
  • 1 onion, quartered
  • 1 lemon, quartered
  • 3 sticks celery, chopped
  • carrots, optional
  • rosemary
  • dried or fresh sage
  • 1-2 quarts/box of broth
  • butter, melted
  • salt, pepper, rubbed sage

Dressing for 1 large turkey

Prep ingredients

  • 1 small roll refrigerator "whomp" biscuits....the cheaper the better.
  • 3 pkgs of Corn-Kits (Morrison brand) or substitute with Cornbread from Scratch if you can't find Morrison brand:
    • 3 c. yellow cornmeal (Not stone ground)
    • 3 c. flour
    • 3 c. milk
    • 3 eggs
    • 3 T sugar (optional if you are not feeding Yankees)
    • 4 Tbsp baking powder
    • 1 1/2 t. salt
    • 3/4 c. shortening

Additional day-of ingredients

  • 3 quarts (boxes) of turkey or chicken broth. The amount you will need depends on humidity and how dry your bread mixture is, the drier the better.
  • 6 eggs
  • 3 onions, chopped (yellow)
  • The rest of a bunch celery, chopped

Instructions

Dressing prep (weekend before)

Make 2/3 of this recipe next time

Two or three days before you are serving, bake the cornbread and biscuits according to the directions on the pkgs.
Let cool, then break up into medium (1" chunks).
Put in large bowl or pan and cover with cuptowel.
Do not cover with foil or plastic wrap...air needs to circulate or it will mold.
Stir twice daily and store in the (unlit) oven. Remember to take it our before you preheat oven for something else.
(Note that if you are only able to find a large roll of biscuits, use only ~ ¾ of them, as too many will make the dressing gummy.)

Day-of Directions

Turkey

Preheat oven to 425 degrees.

Remove turkey from wet brine if using at least 1 hour before baking. If using a frozen turkey, it should be completely thawed by this point.

Thoroughly dry turkey skin with paper towels.

Put turkey breast down into baking pan on a lightly greased or non-stick rack.
Put one onion, quartered, and a couple or so celery stalks and the quartered lemon (plus aromatic herbs) in the cavity.
Salt and pepper the inside.
Tuck a few pats of butter under the skin of the breast.
Using melted butter or oil, brush the breast and legs, then salt and pepper.
Tuck the wings under the bird. Pour one quart of stock into the roasting pan (using smokey turkey stock if you have it) and add some celery, onions, and carrots to the pan.

Put turkey in oven and bake at 425 for 1 hour.
After one hour, flip turkey breast up, baste, and turn heat down to 350.

Continue to baste the turkey occasionally during baking. If the turkey is browning too much on the breast and legs, tent with foil.

About an hour before the turkey is scheduled to be done, remove from oven.
Pour off pan drippings.
Spread dressing evenly in roasting pan and place turkey directly dressing.

(Pour the drippings into a measuring cup, and refrigerate. Use some of the congealed fat to make the roux for the gravy and the rest of the drippings for "au jus" and southern-style gravy. If you have more drippings than you need, you can use some of them to season the dressing as well.)

Bake at least 1 hour more, until turkey is done and dressing is brown around the edge of pan.

Dressing

While the turkey is baking, heat the broth to the boiling point and keep warm.
Boil eggs, cool and peel.
Chop 3 or 4 onions, 3 or 4 stalks of celery and saute in small amount of butter or olive oil until the onion is no longer opaque.

Mix onions and celery into bread mixture.
Add salt and pepper and sage (about 1 tsp. sage to begin with).
When you are almost ready to put the turkey on top, add the hot broth and stir.
Taste and adjust seasonings.
Stir in the chopped eggs.
The consistency of the dressing will be thick, but not soupy. It should pour out of the bowl.

Leftover dressing can be made into tasty fried balls or "stuffles" - dressing waffles!

Gravy

Make gravy using the roux from the turkey fat, flour, broth and salt and pepper. (Blend the turkey dripping fat, and flour in pan stirring until it is thick and smooth.)
Add hot broth, slowly, stirring constantly. If it is not thick enough, add some flour to cold water, stir until mixed, and add slowly to hot mixture....stir like mad.
Cook on low heat for at least 5 minutes after adding additional flour.
Salt and pepper to taste.

(See http://www.audreyandjon.com/blog/20141130/thanksgiving-do-lists for shopping lists and to-do lists)

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Piece parts

This year, we ended up with a broken-down turkey (e.g. in piece parts / primal cuts) and adapted a mix of these two approaches: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/jeff-mauro/a-piece-of-turkey... and https://www.thespruceeats.com/roast-turkey-parts-instead-of-a-wh... . Next time, I'd use a rack regardless to do less braising and more roasting/steaming (and probably cook a bit more evenly).

We placed all the turkey (injected, lightly basted with leftover injection, and with pats of butter) in the roasting pan at 425, then after 30 mins lowered to 325, with some more basting with leftover injection and then with the rendered juices, and tracked done-ness. We put the turkey on the dressing as is our normal approach in the final approach to done-ness.

cooking time

2021 - 13lbs In at 1:50, 45mins breast down then flip (thighs were much higher temp than breast at this point) out at 420 2.5hrs total for target 150
2018 17 lb turkey took 3 hours to cook
2017 A 17.5 lb turkey took 5 hours total, 4 before adding the stuffing
A 14 lb turkey took 3.5 hours total, 2.5 before adding the stuffing.

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